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Post by ryansgym on Aug 30, 2013 9:54:34 GMT -5
are there any thoughts on here about keeping a fighter in the same weightclass his whole career or moving him around. Should you build them the way you want and deal with any changes that brings or tailor your building to remain in the weight you want?
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Post by Sanford on Aug 30, 2013 18:07:16 GMT -5
I like to keep them in the same weight division, but it doesn't work out that way.
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Post by graversen on Sept 1, 2013 9:38:35 GMT -5
I tend to build my fighters realatively speedy and then move them around as they get more Strength and/agility. I don't really care which weightclass they are in.
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Post by SIN on Sept 3, 2013 9:41:42 GMT -5
I've always said that you should focus on having a good build first and foremost and let him fight wherever he can. I don't even pay attention to what weight class my fighter is in. I do similar to Graverson to maximize my spd in lower regionals and work on agl/str/kp from that point on and it tends to pay off. A good build will help you win more fights than trying to screw with your build to stay in a particular division. You could mess up your fighter if you aren't careful.
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Post by palestraitalica on Sept 26, 2014 6:06:21 GMT -5
Interesting! I struggle every time with strength & agility to let the fighter stay in same weight division  I've one question then about that (sorry if it seems stupid): if, for exemple, I train strength and fighter in next bout could fight with penalty due to weight, it's better to move him up in division (but in this case he will not suffer from being by far less heavy than other fighters? That's what I've always thought and that's why I never thought to change their weight division) or "just" train agility (this is the option I always took)? I both cases: which is the right way to schedule fighter training? Thanks |
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Post by SIN on Sept 26, 2014 8:37:00 GMT -5
You schedule training based off what your fighter needs to be successful, not based off of what he needs to stay in a particular weightclass. You wouldn't give a dancer unneeded str to stay in weight, or give a clincher unneeded agl, to keep them in a certain weight. Instead you focus on building the best possible fighter and let him fight wherever that weight may be... If he still happens to be over/under weight, you look at the penalties associated with this and determine which is the better weight to fight in. Overweight hurts you endurance : underweight makes your opponent slightly stronger and harder to ko. In most cases this is minuscule and not enough of a penalty to worry about...
The only situations where this might not be the case is at 106 lbs (you don't want to be lighter than all the straweights) and 300 lbs (you don't want to get unnecessarily penalized for being too heavy in heavyweights).
A well built fighter can win in any weightclass. Focus on making a well built fighter and fight wherever this happens to be.
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Post by SIN on Sept 26, 2014 8:56:00 GMT -5
Perhaps to better answer your question though. If your fighter trains strength and can move up in weight without penalties in the higher weight, move up. When you add agl and he becomes underweight, move him back down. Always choose the weightclass your fighter can fight in with no penalties if possible. If you don't fit in either weightclass choose the one he's closest to fitting in. This is a good rule of thumb to use.
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Post by Martin & Co on Sept 27, 2014 13:00:14 GMT -5
Start your fighters with 11 STR & 11 AGL and build him from there. Will prevent the major STR/AGL gains you get from 9-10 and 10-11.
This is a strategy to use if you really want to keep your fighter in a particular weight class.
However, I find it's better to just move your fighter up and down the weight classes as so needed.
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Post by palestraitalica on Sept 28, 2014 17:53:12 GMT -5
Tanks all. Another question: a fighter can change weight class when a fight is already scheduled?
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Post by SIN on Sept 28, 2014 21:14:37 GMT -5
no, he cannot until after the scheduled match.
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Post by ryansgym on Sept 29, 2014 10:35:06 GMT -5
well technically you can change weightclasses anytime the change just won't take effect until after any fights that are currently in the system
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Post by palestraitalica on Feb 6, 2015 6:23:08 GMT -5
Sorry if I come back in this thread but I have a big doubt: One of my best Cruiser due to random training took too much STR and now he is 11 pounds overweight, I've made some sim and if I'm not wrong he should have something like 6 AGL points to lose enough weight to stay in Cruiser without penalties. My question is: I leave him in Cruiser because this overweight doesn't really affects him or I move on Heavy and train some STR? (He's a dancer) In first case, what if he takes another STR point?
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Post by llecha on Feb 6, 2015 17:18:33 GMT -5
because this overweight doesn't really affects him Really? I didn't sim it but at a rough guess it should cause some troubles with tiredness. I would always move him in proper weight and then train intensive to return. |
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Post by Uber on Feb 7, 2015 8:53:09 GMT -5
A 14 cnd fighter at 211 lbs would start with around 97% of his normal condition, it doesn't sound a lot of difference but it means str, spd and agl get reduced before the fight even begins to 97% of normal. I guess it depends on your fighting style, but if you're focused on efficiency you'll probably never want to give away any advantage before the fight begins. Personally I'd move them up a class, but if you think you can get away with it for a fight or two and train agl to get them a bit lower than it might not be a bad idea to keep them where they are. Look at your likely opponents in upcoming fights (by checking out the rankings) and see whether you'd be better off giving a little advantage to your opponent in cruisers or whether you're more likely to beat the heavyweights.
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Post by palestraitalica on Feb 7, 2015 13:28:22 GMT -5
because this overweight doesn't really affects him Really? I didn't sim it but at a rough guess it should cause some troubles with tiredness. Well, I don't know, it was part of the question ^^ He needs 6 AGL points, you think it could be good (and possible) to train him intensive 6 times? (Until now, for other fighters, I just tried 1 or max 2 points trained intensive) Thank you, I moved him up, I'll take a shot in Heavy and I'll try to give him 1 AGL intensive. Thanks  |
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