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Post by JimSardonic on Oct 29, 2014 20:11:28 GMT -5
Stars, it's time to sack up!
Let's talk about beating sissies. Give me an example of a fighter that you struggle with against sissies... and I'll learn you a thing or two!
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Post by SIN on Oct 29, 2014 20:15:36 GMT -5
Unclestars is afraid of the help forums Jim He hasn't registered yet lol
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Post by JimSardonic on Oct 29, 2014 20:30:09 GMT -5
Unclestars is afraid of the help forums Jim He hasn't registered yet lol Oh, he will. And when he does, this will be here waiting for him
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Post by JimSardonic on Oct 29, 2014 21:42:59 GMT -5
And here he is!
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Post by unclestars on Oct 29, 2014 21:44:35 GMT -5
oh i'm in i'm in.
that stupid thing i have to listen to to prove that i am human i hate it.
i completely got him wrong because i thought he had kp.
but this next fight i am leaving it all on the table..this guy will have so many allout shots i think he is gonna die!
- UncleStars
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Post by unclestars on Oct 29, 2014 21:45:44 GMT -5
i have a fight against a 6 ft 4 middle weight and i promise to beat the shit out of him from round 1 through round 12 :-) I will not have any respect for my opponent. none!
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Post by unclestars on Oct 29, 2014 21:47:53 GMT -5
if he somehow survives this beati....no, fuck that, he won't survive it! i promise!
off to bed for me now...now that i finally got through to the forum you will be seeing alot of me up in here.
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Post by JimSardonic on Oct 29, 2014 21:49:16 GMT -5
Well, sure.
But the key: Know your limits.
Start with a scout. That's important. You can't say it isn't, because if this last scout was on -- you wouldn't have gone as easy as you did. Even if he did, you still would have to go hard at him -- just pick your spots more carefully.
Especially with some attention on the forums and such, be smart. Maybe start out scoring... Consider a fight plan like this:
1) 8/8/4 (inside) if roundslost > 0 then 6B/11/3 (allout)
...and then add on from there.
Make sense? Go hard, but score well. Once he opens up enough to try outscoring you -- start blasting the body hard. This is a great way to start trying out some ideas -- and a bit of an example of basic fight plan logic. Sometimes it's easy to fill in 500 lines in a fight plan that don't mean a damn thing. These two lines may well win you a fight, if paired with maybe two more lines. Who needs 500?
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Post by SIN on Oct 29, 2014 22:02:06 GMT -5
oh i'm in i'm in. that stupid thing i have to listen to to prove that i am human i hate it. i completely got him wrong because i thought he had kp. but this next fight i am leaving it all on the table..this guy will have so many allout shots i think he is gonna die! - UncleStars Do you know how to tell if he has kp after the fight???
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Post by SIN on Oct 29, 2014 22:15:33 GMT -5
Lokomotiv fights from outside (outside). Youngest backpedals (outside).
Leonid "Lokomotiv" Kuchook landed 38 of 94 punches -- 1 power punch, 36 jabs, 1 right. (79 points) Lot`s Youngest landed 21 of 46 punches -- 1 power punch, 19 jabs, 1 right. (45 points)
Your fighter lost 0.4 points of endurance this round due to damage, and 0.0 points due to fatigue. He took 0.8 points of stun damage this round. He has accumulated 0 points of damage in the fight.
Notice how Lokomotiv is fighting opportunistic but he's generating more stun damage to my fighter than endurance damage. That means he has kp. Take note of that against sissy managers.
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Post by ryansgym on Oct 30, 2014 7:58:53 GMT -5
I will second Jims point, I fight with freak clinchers all the time and you rarely see the kp dancer throw power early, usually they are trying to open you up by getting ahead on score so they can flash, take advantage and go aggressive and still do damage and force them to open up to get the score back in their favor, then when you think they will open up to try for score ruin their endurance, Jim loves the well timed body allout, I just throw hard but keep with clinch with my guys, but you ruin them and then just don't get caught with the desperation flash and you are good
PS running from a sissy is not a good luck for someone who's gym motto is beating them like their supposed to be beaten or whatever it was
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Post by SIN on Oct 30, 2014 10:25:37 GMT -5
Judging by last nights result, I think Stars got the point...
Lakeliver requires medical attention from his trainer. He has his left eye nearly swollen shut. He has bleeding below his right eye. He has a serious cut over his left eye. He has a bloody lip.
ENFORCER NUMBER 3 doesn''t need to rest.
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Post by ryansgym on Oct 30, 2014 10:28:30 GMT -5
glad he figured out the message, we were all so subtle about it
I will say, and someone can correct me if there is a better reason for it, but I don't understand the allout with no targeting, you eventually went to head, but why not either start with head for the knockout attempt, or the probably better option of the body allout to get them tired faster, also don't expect to get away with that many allout rounds in a row like that on a regular basis
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Post by unclestars on Oct 30, 2014 21:03:25 GMT -5
I think I can answer that. In my fight Wednesday, i really thought, in looking at fights he had with other fighters, that he had kp. Sanny has taught me, painfully, about going after a kp guy foolishly.
The fight today, Thursday, i knew for a fact that my opponent was a sissy. i used to run nothing but sissies years ago. Now, since he doesn't have fights with this fighter yet, i wonder what kind of sissy. I know its not a kp sissy, but does this sissy have a high chin, or high agility and conditioning. This i don't know, but i do know 3 hings....
1) I'm eventually going to use allout. 2) I know targeting lessens amount of punches landed, but does increase damage to the area that you are targeting. 3) Unless i forgot from reading the help files years ago, you land i think 20% less punches when targeting (someone can correct me if i am wrong).
Like i said, i don't know if he has high agil/cond or a high chin, but i do know that my thinking was I want as many of my punches to land as possible. As the fight wears on, how fast is he getting tired? Is he being stunned? I know i am doing good damage to both his grill and his body instead of more to one area.
I could target just the body, but hmmm, what if is agi/cnd is high? I could target the head early, but, what if he has a high chin?
I liked my chances with just using allout without targeting. Sure enough, he was beat up enough for me to knock him out. But since I knew he was a sissy without kp, i was comfortable using allout very often. That is the only fighter type that i would ever do that against for that many rounds.
P.S. The motto is "Beating them like they are supposed to be beaten". :-)
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Post by unclestars on Oct 30, 2014 21:10:37 GMT -5
Thanks SIN..i just read what you said about kp.
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